Opening up.

Nick Viall was on Seasons 10 and 11 of “The Bachelorette” and Season 3 of “Bachelor in Paradise,” and went on to be the Bachelor for Season 21.

And despite finding love on-screen multiple times, those relationships ended up not working out in the long run.

After his time on the Bachelor Nation shows, Nick met his now girlfriend Natalie Joy and the two are currently living together in Los Angeles.

Nick and Natalie are head over heels for each other and have been open about how special their relationship is over the past couple years.

Now, the two stopped by the “Call Her Daddy” podcast where they opened up about their future together.

Nick got emotional talking about Natalie and said that for the first time in his life he would “not be okay” if she left him.

In past relationships, Nick said he would always prepare for the breakup, but it’s different with Natalie and she makes him feel “so safe.”

So naturally, the two were asked about their future and if they talk about marriage and children.

Natalie answered, “We’re talking about it more. We’re having those conversations that everyone is scared to have, but they’re definitely needed. We talk about finances, children, where we want to live, and things like that. We are definitely opening up and talking about those things more.”

She added, “We’re not not trying, we’re not trying either. We’re just living life.”

Nick chimed in and discussed a potential proposal coming soon, saying, “Her ‘For You’ page is a lot of engagement stuff because she asked me once, because she’s very playful. But great, she’s giving me the information I need to be successful. I love that for me. She was like ‘Is this too much?’ And it wasn’t. She walked the line carefully and told me exactly what you want and where you’re at.”

Nick went on and explained why he was glad Natalie opened up to him about being ready to get engaged.

The former Bachelor said, “Now I know, and this is good to know, but I don’t feel pressure. As a guy, you get to a place where you don’t want to have to reassure your partner that you want to marry them or want to get engaged. She wants to tell me things, but we both have a level of wanting it to be romantic and a surprise, rather than knowing today is the day.”